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New Type Of EBook, Works In Explorer, Don't Need A Book Reader
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VMail
2004-02-29 15:06:09 UTC
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If anyone is interested you can grab them for free at
<http://www.grabafreebie.com/Library.html>
VMail
2004-03-04 22:09:13 UTC
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The last posting was 'perhaps' a little bit too brief.

The site <http://www.grabafreebie.com/index.htm> is designed to work
with the Explorer, other types of browser won't be able to access
various parts of it.

The VBook library <http://www.grabafreebie.com/Library.html> itself is
actually a VBook, you can only download the VBooks if you are viewing
it with the Explorer.

To download the VBooks you need to click on the book title with the
<CTRL> key held down.

Probably seem to be a strange way of doing things, the library itself
is also a demo of VBooks ability to switch to other VBooks. So, not
using the <CRTL> key is to switch VBook as opposed to download VBook.

Two files needs to be downloaded, I could have put them both in the
same zip archive but the library won't be able to switch to it. I
would need to store two copies of the VBook, my web space is very
sadly limited, an economical consideration.



Free EBooks for download
The VBook library currently includes:

Alexandre Dumas Pere - The Black Tulip
Alexandre Dumas Pere - The Count Of Monte Cristo
Alexandre Dumas Pere - The Three Musketeers
Bram Stoker - Dracula
Bram Stoker - The Jewel Of Seven Stars
Bram Stoker - The Lady Of The Shroud
Bram Stoker - The Lair Of The White Worm
Bram Stoker - The Man
Arthur Conan Doyle - Sherlock Holmes Complete
Arthur Conan Doyle - The Great Boer War
Arthur Conan Doyle - The Lost World
Arthur Conan Doyle - The Parasite
Arthur Conan Doyle - Through The Magic Door
Charles Dickens - A Child's History Of England
Charles Dickens - A Christmas Carol
Charles Dickens - A Tale Of Two Cities
Charles Dickens - American Notes
Charles Dickens - Barnaby Rudge
Charles Dickens - Bleak House
Charles Dickens - David Copperfield
Charles Dickens - Dombey And Son
Charles Dickens - Essays From Household Words
Charles Dickens - Great Expectations
Charles Dickens - Hard Times
Charles Dickens - Little Dorrit
Charles Dickens - Master Humphrey's Clock
Charles Dickens - Nicholas Nickleby
Charles Dickens - No Thoroughfare
Charles Dickens - Oliver Twist
Charles Dickens - Our Mutual Friend
Charles Dickens - Pictures From Italy
Charles Dickens - Short Stories Archive
Charles Dickens - Sketches By Boz
Charles Dickens - Speeches, Literary & Social
Charles Dickens - The Life And Adventures Of Martin Chuzzlewit
Charles Dickens - The Mystery Of Edwin Drood
Charles Dickens - The Old Curiosity Shop
Charles Dickens - The Pickwick Papers
Charles Dickens - The Uncommercial Traveller
D H Lawrence - Aaron's Rod
D H Lawrence - Kangaroo
D H Lawrence - Lady Chatterley's Lover
D H Lawrence - Sons And Lovers
D H Lawrence - The Captain's Doll
D H Lawrence - The Fox
D H Lawrence - The Ladybird
D H Lawrence - The Plumed Serpent
D H Lawrence - The Rainbow
D H Lawrence - Touch And Go
D H Lawrence - Woman In Love
Daniel Defoe - Robinson Crusoe
George Bernard Shaw - In Good King Charles's Golden Days
George Bernard Shaw - Pygmalion
George Orwell - A Clergyman's Daughter
George Orwell - Animal Farm
George Orwell - Burmese Days
George Orwell - Coming Up For Air
George Orwell - Down And Out In Paris And London
George Orwell - Homage To Catalonia
George Orwell - Keep The Aspidistra Flying
George Orwell - Nineteen Eighty Four
H G Wells - A Modern Utopia
H G Wells - Ann Veronica
H G Wells - First And Last Things
H G Wells - Floor Games
H G Wells - God The Invisible King
H G Wells - In The Days Of The Comet
H G Wells - Little Wars
H G Wells - Mankind In The Making
H G Wells - Men Like Gods
H G Wells - Secret Places Of The Heart
H G Wells - Soul Of A Bishop
H G Wells - The Door In The Wall, And Other Stories
H G Wells - The First Man On The Moon
H G Wells - The History Of Mr Polly
H G Wells - The Invisible Man
H G Wells - The Island Of Doctor Moreau
H G Wells - The Man Who Could Work Miracles
H G Wells - The New Machiavelli
H G Wells - The Research Magnificent
H G Wells - The Time Machine
H G Wells - The War In The Air
H G Wells - The War Of The Worlds
H G Wells - The World Set Free
H G Wells - Tono Bungay
H G Wells - Twelve Stories And A Dream
H G Wells - War And The Future
H G Wells - Wheels Of Chance, A Bicycling Idyll
H G Wells - When The Sleeper Wakes
Herman Melville - Moby Dick
Herman Melville - Typee
Homer - Iliad
Homer - Odyssey
James Joyce - A Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Man
James Joyce - Dubliners
James Joyce - Ullysses
Jane Austen - Emma
Jane Austen - Lady Susan
Jane Austen - Mansfield Park
Jane Austen - Northanger Abbey
Jane Austen - Persuasion
Jane Austen - Pride And Prejudice
Jane Austen - Sense And Sensibility
Jules Verne - Around The World In 80 Days
Jules Verne - Eight Hundred Leagues On The Amazon
Jules Verne - Five Weeks In A Balloon
Jules Verne - From Earth To The Moon
Jules Verne - In Search Of The Castaways
Jules Verne - Journey To The Interior Of The Earth
Jules Verne - Michael Strogoff
Jules Verne - Off On A Comet
Jules Verne - Robur The Conqueror
Jules Verne - Round The Moon
Jules Verne - The Master Of The World
Jules Verne - The Mysterious Island
Jules Verne - The Survivors Of The Chancellor
Jules Verne - Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea
Leo Tolstoy - Anna Karenina
Leo Tolstoy - Ivan The Fool
Leo Tolstoy - Resurrection
Leo Tolstoy - The Cossacks
Leo Tolstoy - War And Peace
Mary Shelly - Frankenstein
Maurice LeBlanc - Arsene Lupin
Maurice LeBlanc - The Crystal Stopper
Maurice LeBlanc - The Extrodinary Adventures Of Arsene Lupin
Maurice LeBlanc - The Hollow Needle
Robert Louis Stevenson - Catriona
Robert Louis Stevenson - Fables
Robert Louis Stevenson - Kidnapped
Robert Louis Stevenson - New Arabian Nights
Robert Louis Stevenson - Prince Otto
Robert Louis Stevenson - St Ives
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Black Arrow
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Dynamiter
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Master Of Ballantrae
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Merry Men And Other Tales And Fables
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Misadventures Of John Nicholson
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Story Of A Lie
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Strange Case Of Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde
Robert Louis Stevenson - The Wrong Box
Robert Louis Stevenson - Treasure Island
Robert Louis Stevenson - Weir Of Hermiston
Virginia Woolf - A Haunted House And Other Stories
Virginia Woolf - A Room Of One's Own
Virginia Woolf - Jocob's Room
Virginia Woolf - Monday To Tuesday
Virginia Woolf - Mrs Dalloway
Virginia Woolf - Night And Day
Virginia Woolf - Orlando
Virginia Woolf - The Death Of The Mouth And Other Essays
Virginia Woolf - The Voyage Out
Virginia Woolf - The Waves
Virginia Woolf - Three Guineas
Virginia Woolf - To The Lighthouse
Vladimir Nabokov - Lolita
Walter Scott - Ivanhoe
Walter Scott - Rob Roy
Unknown - Beowulf



Ignore the old site
<http://uk.geocities.com/warmanmasters/Library.html>
<http://uk.geocities.com/warmanmasters/index.htm>
They don't do much for now
Christoph Wasshuber
2004-03-05 04:45:37 UTC
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Interesting concept to use a JavaApplet to write an ebook reader.
However many features are missing.

We are producing HTML ebooks for almost 4 years which only use
HTML and JavaScript and work with Netscape as well as Internet
Explorer. We have features like an awesome search engine,
text-to-speech,
slide mode, facsimile mode, ...

Chris....
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VMail
2004-03-05 20:27:20 UTC
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Nice to know a fellow EBook publisher is taking an interest.

It is actually a deliberate choice not to support Netscape, at this
stage anyway.

The consideration is one economy, it is expected to cost a lot more
trying to cater for other browsers while the consumer market don't
tend to use other types of browser much.

This arguement has lasted for many years, while Netscape is
consistently loosing ground, a small percentage uses Netscape but of
these that don't have access to Explorer is unlikely to be anywhere
near one percent.

Unlike a website, an EBook is something people choose to download, it
isn't a matter of people trying to 'visit' with a browser.

Having 'hi-tech' features in an EBook would amuse but the VBook is
intended to do other things.

I have to say that your EBooks beats my VBooks on functionality, so
you win there.

Wish you success with your EBooks while my VBooks succeeds in other
ways.

Chi
Christoph Wasshuber
2004-03-06 04:28:03 UTC
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Chi,

I agree in principle with your Netscape argument, but if programmed
well, several browsers should be able to work with a JavaApplet. Even
with JavaScript it can be done.
Post by VMail
Wish you success with your EBooks while my VBooks succeeds in other
ways.
Where do you see your VBooks succeed? For which application
or situation do you think your VBooks have the edge?

Chris....
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VMail
2004-03-06 22:05:41 UTC
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Thank you for being interested in VBook.

Judging from your much more sophisticated EBook operation, you
probably understand the EBook market much better than I do and if the
VBook functions solely as an EBook you are entirely correct in that I
should make it workable with other browsers.

JAVA generally works with most browser and I can very easily 'allow'
it work with Netscape, working with other browser wouldn't be too much
hard work either.

VBook also have to function as 'Website In An EMail', the actual issue
is producing HTML/DHTML content that works with other browser(s),
these have to be hand coded. If you have been through the pain, you
would know that this generally takes more than three times the effort
to do it well and with EMails you don't tend to get a chance to
correct any mistakes, once its sent its sent.

The issue isn't just how much I would charge but how long the customer
has to wait for delivery, the reliability and quality comes into it as
well.

All this being said, very few people support Explorer only, the
deciding factor is how the product is ultimately going to do rather
than how it physically functions.

The library webpage is itself a VBook and it has the ability to switch
to any one of the novels, in a similar way the VBooks would be able to
switch to shopping carts/catalogues in the next generation of VBooks,
the catalogues are themselves VBooks.

This concept may be a bit difficult to swallow, people actually enjoy
reading catalogues, the problem with online catalogues is that they
take too long to change webpages and they are not formatted
conveniently for drooling over a product people have feelings for. I
want to produce a catalogue that is as easy 'probably more
convenient/better in many ways' than a physical catalogue, being able
to read about individual product in its own page with all the nice
things being said about it instead of some cut down version of the
sales pitch that is far less satisfying.

At the end of the day I only care about people that choose to download
the catalogue to be viewed in their Explorer rather than searching on
the Internet for bargains with browsers that may not be an Explorer.
Fundamentally, the VBook is a means for the people doing the selling
to get established in the market, they can have websites that works
with all kinds of browser as well, it is a separate thing.

You can also think of it as 'VBook don't need a book reader', so the
job gets done. I am mainly interested in having an established user
base rather than people wandering in randomly with incompatible
browsers.

There are loads of other application for VBook but the catalogue is
what I'm planning to do next together with a few other things, if the
catalogue thing don't work out it becomes a practical means of
delivering newspaper/magazine and the catalogue becomes the advert
section, the list goes on etc. etc. etc.

(The business is about developing content, the technology gets job
done. for the last several months I've been working a just one book.
Be a few weeks before the first release, this VBook actually translate
Chinese to English in a way that allows you to read Chinese in its
original context. hopefully, it should be of massive interest to
those trying to learn Chinese or people that are curious about this
book, reading Chinese is a very different experience to reading
English and this book is a bit special. I'll EMail you a preview if
you are interested, its over 1.2MB in size)

Hope this VMail/VBook thing amuses.

Chi
Post by Christoph Wasshuber
Chi,
I agree in principle with your Netscape argument, but if programmed
well, several browsers should be able to work with a JavaApplet. Even
with JavaScript it can be done.
Post by VMail
Wish you success with your EBooks while my VBooks succeeds in other
ways.
Where do you see your VBooks succeed? For which application
or situation do you think your VBooks have the edge?
Chris....
Christoph Wasshuber
2004-03-07 05:37:41 UTC
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Chi,

sure I am interested in your Chinese-English ebook.

Chris....
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